Kaberle Rumors
The latest rumor from TSN had the Boston Bruins offering Phil Kessel to Toronto for Tomas Kaberle AND the 7th overall pick. Eklund has now reported that Kessel for Kaberele straight up is not enough. Conflicting...but I take McKenzie's word of Eklund's any day of the week.
I don't want to trade Kessel, as his potential is very high, but the first offer is one of the better ones I have seen. Kaberle has a very affordable contract for the next two seasons at 4.25 per and is one of the best puck movers in the game. The 7th overall pick could land us talent close to Phil, but we would not see that player for a few seasons, which is important since we would not have to pay him.
posted by Matt at 11:28 AM
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TRADE KESSEL = HUGE DESASTER!!!
KABRELE IS NOT THAT GOOD, THE LAST TWO SEASONS HE HAS BENN -8 IN +/-
AND YOU GUYS SAY HE IS A GOOD DEFENSEMAN.
btw kessel has been rumored in so many trades, the one for pronger, the one last season, and now. its always kessel, BOTTOM LINE, WE DONT NEED KABRELE FOR A POTENTIAL 50 GOAL SCORER.
kaberle is overrated, but he's better than his stats...remember he plays on the leafs.
kessel is no longer a "potential" anything. he has peaked as a 35 goal scoring one-way forward. either way, kessel is gone this year.
here's what i heard from my buddy who works at mlse:
kessel, our 1st rounder and the rights to fernandez for kaberle and toronto's 7th overall pick.
GREAT DEAL for us, but kinda stupid for toronto, unless they have a flip plan. also, remember we have tampa's second round pick (which is pretty high) from he recchi trade.
at first i didn't like this kaberle business, but scoring starts from the back-end. kaberle is like wideman and is a lefty. if this was straight-up kessel for kabby, it slants towards the leafs. for whatever reson, they have a hard-on for fernandez.
NOW tsn is saying the offer is kessel and a late round pick for kaberle.
i dunno, i'm starting to like this...as long as we resign hunwick.
dude i dont know that doesnt sound good good to me 31yr old 4 what 22yr old NO WAY DUMB
Find another trade partner PC
kessel is soft and getting softer by the day. trade him while the rest of the league is still staring at his 36 goals and before you are forced to match a stupid offersheet or lose him for a couple of compensation draft picks. if it's kabby...great...if it someone else...great...I've seen enough of kessel to know that he is skilled, soft and fragile. good shot but his ability to create offense is average at best when the cycle is on. might be fine for 82 regular season games but come playoff time this guy won't lead us.
Ask yourself this and imagine it's playoff time. Of your young guys and the stages of their pro careers (contract wise), who would you be OK with losing?
Hunwick(RFA now), Krejci(signed), Bitz(RFA now), Lucic(RFA after this year), Wheeler(RFA after this year), Stuart(RFA after this year)or Kessel(RFA now). Can't keep them all. Bye Bye Phil. Your the softest of this bunch and don't think PC, Cam and Sweeney haven't noticed.
Mook we have Tampa's 2nd round pick for next year (2010), not this year.
I'm not sure if I am sold on Kaberle for Kessel and a pick. Kaberle and the 7th for Kessel and the 25th is worth listening to.
To be honest, I'd take Weber and the 11th overall pick for Kessel and the 25th overall pick if he is getting traded.
Phil Kessel's track record over the last 3 seasons is being over looked here. He's never had the mental stability you expect out of teams #1 guy. They've been able to squeeze out as much as they can from this guy, and the fact that he's being dangled from day one PROVES that the Bruins brass have seen enough, and they're ready to move on.
I think people are also forgetting the Bruins have a TON of great young players on the roster in both Boston and Providence, and eventually they're going to have to make room for some of these guys. Might as well take advantage of the year that Kessel had rather than waiting until he gets hurt or slumps... where would we be then.
Don't get me wrong, I think Kessel is a phenomenal player, but unless he somehow learns how to lead an offense and not just capitalize on other players play making, he's not going to be a "special" player.
the bruins r porbly not gunna do anything because PC is too much of a passive GM. he has had oppertunities to pull the triger to get hossa last deadline, and last summer. if they go to the free agent market i wanna see PC make an attempt to sign either mike camarelli or martin havlat, both young and very talented. or jus go for hossa w/ all the money u got left, which i believe is 6.6MM according to nhlnumbers.com . but hopefully the bruins could get somethin outa kessel too. w/e the bruins do will most likely help them.
leave now bc super fan, you have no idea what your talking about and i guarantee you your like every other person from bc, a rich farifield county or north shore douche bag who has no idea what he is talking about.
bc is soft
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it would be a stupid trade since Kaberle is a unrestricted free agent according to nhlbythenumbers.com If we made that trade that doesn't mean that we would get Kaberle. and besides we have a lot of good young deference man in providence waiting to move up.
kaberle has 2 years left at something like 4.25mil/yr. PC isn't that dumb...
1st of all id like to say that i dont even go to BC, im not even outa high school yet. i jus love boston bruins hockey, havent missed a game in 4 or 5 yrs now. and im not even close to rich, im jus a huge fan of their sports. ok w/ that outa the way id like to say all the bruins need is that one goal scorer. they have the d-fense, the goaltending, the young talent, the gritty and creative forwards like looch and krejci, and the missig piece is that one pure goal scorer, not phil kessel, more like marian hossa? according to some rumors i heard, hossa is askin for bout 6MM a yr and long term. i honestly would love to see hossa here
did you watch the playoffs? i did, and never saw Hossa.
yeah, he turned-out to be a great signing.
Hossa's play off numbers:
98-31-45
moving on:
i dont know much about the QMJHL, however a buddy and my found outself watching that huge tour. that took place a couple months ago. we decided our favorite team was going to be the Rimouski Oceanic because of their bad ass shark jerseys. dumb reason but we were kind of joking and just wanted to watch hockey after the bruins lost.
we saw a bunch of these guys from the oceanics play and this caron guy is nasty.real good skater.
bcfan, kessel was 14th or 13th in the league for goal scoring. and hes alot younger then Hossa. the bruins dont need your " pure goal scorer" not when EVERYONES scoring.
no hossa
no heatly
no kaberle
and the whole kessel getting soft post...you are an idoit. he was off his game in the playoffs and ill admit it. all he did was the tow drag bull shit. but hes going to get alot better.
one other thing, if we do trade phill..,its not going to be for another D-man. we have wayy to much. unless theyr planning on cutting some of it down ( montador)
Yes, Hossa was very effective this year in the playoffs.
Peter Schaefer was placed on unconditional waivers. TSN is reporting for the purpose of buying him out.
My question.... why in the heck would you buy him out and ADD to the cap? Just leave him in Providence where he doesn't count against the cap!
I love how people are assuming Kessel has peaked at 35 goals or will get hurt, or can only be a one-way player. Don't forget Kessel missed part of the season with MONO, then played the rest of the season with a bum shoulder. The kid is about to hit his prime. Loosing Kessel only takes away from Savard's value. He will be cheaper than Hossa, who yes did nothing in the playoffs.
I don't know about you guys but I love the Boston Bruins, and seeing the young core of players we drafted form this success is lot more gratifying than buying a team.
if they sign hossa they'll have to play the season with 5 nhl defensmen. time to wake up and think a bit. forget the UFA's. we don't need any of them and typically they are overpriced. sign hunwick and bitz and get ready to sign stuart, looch and wheeler after next year. at the most maybe bring back one of yelle, recchi, hnidy or montador for cheap but that's it. trade kessel for a vet forward or dman with a cheap contract and a pick and move on.
willis you are the idiot pal. kessel isn't getting soft...he was born soft and has stayed this way his entire hockey career. do watch this team? he's a faster craig janney but isn't as good a playmaker. he refuses to take the puck wide because the god damn boards are there and he might get run into them! that defines soft right there. he can't cycle the puck and win a battle in the corner. i could care less if he was hurt as most are in the playoffs. his value is at an all time high and the management is smart enough to know which player to move. i appluad pc and friends for not falling in love with the numbers. it's about the playoffs and two way, gritty, talented players are the ones that win cups. kessel can only claim to have some talent. move on
you can't keep them all and i think it came down to krejci or kessel and the b's went in the right direction. krejci is by far the better all around player.
the bruins are not signing hossa. period.
kessel is a great player, and would flourish on the wings or another team like that but not on the bruins. he is a great goal scorer, but i would be too if i was playing with savard.
sign heatley. done.
I think the B's are going to sit still this open season on the free agent market. What you see right now is who you will see once training camp opens in the fall.
vince_m
mook im jus gunna say one little thing. we cant sign heatley, we have to trade to get heatley. but yea i would like heatley any day over kessel or hossa.
how hard would it be to trade kessel and sturm? would we have to move both to fit heatley?
i would have posted that under anon. too...because everything you say is stupid
your right, kessel is soft. hes horrible. and to think that pussy only had cancer...and mono....and a torn sholder..he could only put up 34 goals? trade him away. he clearing peaked at the ripe age of 21.
how badly were you bashing him when he was dominating the begining of the season?
fair weather fans belong in new york..so kindly go fuck yourself
whatever willis. ive said what i said about kessel since i saw him play for the USA jrs and wasn't even a Bruin. I said it the day they drafted him....even when he scores goals againt LA in Dec....yes..I would say it then.
He could be cancer free, have bionic shoulders, and no mono but the guy is what he is. Scores off the rush and stays away from contact. Someone will pay him 5 mil and i'm glad it won't be the Bruins. Are you telling me once or if the guy ever gets healthy, he won't play soft and he'll start taking the puck wide? Come on!
The guys has played this way for a long time and i would rather take the guy who I know can play in his own end (Krejci) vs the guy who is still figuring it out. Kessel isn't strong enough to play centre and is only adequate on the wing. problem is when the puck needs to be won along the boards in our own end, kessel might as well rush up ice and hope for a bad bounce over the D's stick (oh wait that is what he does now).
The B's didn't even want to draft Kessel but they did as the dropoff in talent from the #5 to #6 in that years draft was huge. Erik Johnson, Jordan Staal, Jonathan Toews, Nicklas Backstrum and then Kessel. After that there is a clear drop off in ability and not picking Kessel despite his limitations would have been a bigger mistake. Now is the time to cash in on picking him as paying him 5 mil makes no sense.
mook i believe they would have enough w/ like around 2-3MM left to spend. but i think the senators want bergeron not sturm. im sure the bruins would have done it already if it was sturm+kessel for heatley. the only thing is that he has a 3MM bonus which kicks into gear tomorrow. so i dunno how all that works w/ if he gets traded, then who takes care of the bonus. but the bruins could trade for heatley, but only for a roster player. i honestly would love to see heatley, ppl say hes an asshole and only plays for himself, but i ont rlly care, he is a rlly good player. i rlly wish the bruins will pick up a pure goal scorer tho, and not kessel.
The more I think about a Bergeron and Sturm for Heatley deal the more it makes sense. The money would be close and according to nhlnumbers.com, Bergeron goes up to 5.7 million in 2010/2011. He's showing signs of taking his game to the next level but is it the 5.7million dollar level? If I was a betting man I would say he isn't going to be able to, so a trade might make sense.
Top 2 lines:
Looch, Savard, Heatley
Ryder, Krejci, Wheeler
Last two lines made up of the following:
Kobasew,Thornton, Bitz, Sobotka, and will have to look at siging cheap UFA's like Recchi and Yelle or bring up a rookie or two to round out the 4 lines.
Kobasew could go up for whoever is slumping on the top two.
If I could trade Bergeron, a prospect and a pick for Heatley I would prefer that as I would like to keep Sturm but that means cutting money somehwere else. What about trading Rask? His cap hit is 2.3 next year. With Thomas making 6 that's over 8 million in goalies. With Manny and Thomas our cap hit was around 5.5 last year. A capable back up can be had for much less than that. Alex Auld?
Looch/Savy/Heatley is scary just to think about.
To the comment about "scoring goals against LA in December" you make it sound like the regular season is not important. You have to make it to the playoffs first.
Also do not forget we are watching the "New NHL" in which Kessel's strengths (speed) are more important than ever.
I would love to sign Kessel to a Krejci type contract and see him develop into the player he will become. As for the bashing, physical player that he is not, just look to his opposite winger on the line he should be on, Lucic.
Forget about Heatley and Hossa it is not happening.
Guys I am 100% confident if Kobasew, Kessel, Krejci, Sturm, and Ference were not hurt we would have been playing for Lord Stanley.
Free Agency is not the answer
oh and how "wide" do want Kessel to go its a fuckin hockey rink not a soccer field. His move is keep the D-Man in front of him and use as a screen while sniping a snap shot.
Montreal just got Gomez from the Rangers for Higgins, TSN is reporting.
Gomez is garbage and Price is still a joke - Montreal still wont make the playoffs next year.
Sometimkes I really hate the NHL - the Rangers handcuff themselves every year and some team is always stupid enough to bail them out..... "Sure we'll take on your bad contract" The Rangers are just going to go out and get Heatley and take on his $7.5M per deal....or they may make an offer to Kessel...
I'd rather see the B's make a deal, something like Kessel and X for Phaneuff or Kessel, Sturm, 1st and a prospect for Kovalchuk...instead of shipping him to Toronto for Kaberle...Toronto is just going to move Kessel in a package once they get him.
Bruins just bought out Peter Schaefer's contract! What a STUPID move!!! We are trying to fit guys under the cap and you are going to do a buy out to add money towards the cap for two years? WTF!! Leave him in Providence. What if Sturm or Kobasew goes down, he could be recalled and not worry about the cap hit.
DUMB DUMB DUMB!!
I agree with Anonymous regarding other teams bailing out the Rangers. But to add insult to injury, Dumbass Bob included their top prospect, McDonagh in the deal along with another defensive prospect, Valentenko. Rangers counted with two prospects that look to be low end prospects.... possible full time AHLers, Tom Pyatt and Mike Busto.
How they do it? It is beyond me!! Rangers come out smelling like a rose. While looks like the Habs are saying bye bye to Koivu!
well 1.) i dont think that calgary is gunna trade phanuef as much as i would like him here. but 2.) i love ur kovalchuck move. he is nasty. the only thing is that he is hittni free agency next yr, so it woul be a 1 yr type of thing. but if the bruins think they can rlly make a run at the cup then yea id do it up.
Jay Bouwmeester has signed a 5 year deal with the Flames. He will be making 6.6 per. Flames just improved their D a bunch!!
guys wuts ur imput on nik antropov? hes askin same as kessel about 5MM but i believe he is more developed and talented than kessel, also to add his is a big boy. wuts ur imput?
I'm not sold on Antropov to be honest. Ask yourself a question.... would you trade Kessel straight up for Antropov? Granted they have similar numbers but Phil is 8 years younger. Even though many say he is soft.... he can still improve. So many said that Savard was a cancer and a one way player, but CJ has changed that.
I'm not sold yet on giving up on Kessel, unless it is a great return. Antropov should be a 3.5 mil player, IMO.
Maybe Weber out of Nashville, Johnson's rights from LA, or Staal from NYR. Even if we had to add something. I hope it would be a WOW trade that would benefit both teams.
well antropov is a UFA but i see where ur comin from. weber would be a great pick up from nashville. had a break out yr last yr and made a name for himself. i thought i read that johnsons rights r gettin traded. idk the website. souray is also on the block if the wings dont trade hossa's rightsto edmonton for souray. but theres alota names out there right now. gunna be a hectic next 2-3 days for both bruins fans and bruins staff including players.
I know that Antropov is a UFA.... I should have said that, sorry. I was just asking if you would trade one for one.
He has some good skills and is huge, but not for 5mil or better.
What about Chicago's Seabrook or Keith?
i am, and always have been pro antropov.
buying out Schaefer was a dip shit move.
if we could some how keep the team the way it is...who would be down for it? i know i would. this is just for shits
antropov sucks...take it from a toronto resident.
whe kessel is hot, i love him. trouble is, he is never consistent. since we hang our goal-scoring jersey on him, we may as well complain when he gets cold for MONTHS at a time.
i don't know what you guys are thinking, but heatley on the bruins means stanley. antropov is asking for "ridiculous" money according to glen sather...
anyways it isn't happening.
heatley to the oil, and bouwmeester to the flame. anyone notice how thin the east is now? looks like the bruins are in for another 100 point+ season BUT i want to see some more goals.
chia thinks goals start at the back-end, and i believe it. go get kaberle. go.
TSN is reporting if Heatley waives his no-trade clause he is heading to the Oilers for Penner, Smid and Cogliano.
LOL. Bruins make the playoffs regardless of what kessel does in the regular season. He could have played zero games and we're still in with little worries. with his injuries and stretches when he was invisable this team didn't miss a beat without him. yeah its a hockey rink jimmy and kessel only skates in the middle of it. his "move" is his only 1on1 move he does. toe drag and shoot it through the d's legs. seen it pretty much every time he goes 1on1 with guy. listen fellas...there are several reasons why he is being shopped and i tend to agree with the decision. sorry it hurts some feelings.
so heatley=gone
bowmeester=gone
kessel=who knows, boston? toronto? anywhere i guess.
i rlly hope the bruins can make some sorta splash tmorrow at 12noon time.
here we go!
heatley does not waive his ntc for edmonton...
heatley-savard-ryder
pp booyah!
I don't mind that Kessel is being shopped. So long as they get something for him and not "settle" for something, I'm ok with it. With that being said.... I'm still ok if he is in a B's jersey next year. He was on pace for an amazing season before the mono. If he had stayed hot, would we be questioning his "soft" play? his "only going thru the middle"? I doubt it.
We had the best record in the East, and he helped. With Julien coaching, Kessel can improve his overall game just like Savard did.
But if a Shea Weber or similar come this way..... I'll personally drive Phil to the airport!
"If he had stayed hot, would we be questioning his "soft" play? his "only going thru the middle"? I doubt it."
Yes I would. Has he had mono fo 4 years? Because I've watched him play over the last 4 years (junior and pro)and nothing has changed aside from more peachfuzz on his face.
Just not a fan of the way the guy plays the game and if we can grab a player like Kaberle to or something like that I hardly think it settling.
So you are saying if he scored 50 goals you would want to trade him? No disrespect meant, but I highly doubt it.
Does he play soft? Yes! Does that mean he is not a good player? NO! Bottom line.... if we can get something that helps improve the team, I'm all for trading him. But at the same time.... I'm fine with him in a B's jersey.
TSN is reporting the Sedin brothers have re-signed with the Canucks!
Mattias Ohlund is going to the Tampa Bay Lightning with a new seven-year contract worth $3.75 million a season. TSN reports.
thats a great signing by TB. decently cheap, and now they have 2 top d-men w/ him and hedman
any of you guys have tsn2? canada rocks...5 hours of deadline-day coverage.
i wish i did. i wish i an nhl network too. but the bruins r in both the hossa and komisarek sweepsteaks as well reported by NESN. wouldnt mind see either one of them here.
http://www2.nesn.com/boston-bruins/2009/07/01/murphys-law-free-agent-frenzy-underway-in-nhl/
I like the speed that Phil brings to the game but if he can't be signed under the constraints of the cap, what about this?
The trading partner we should be talking with is Buffalo because they took the 1st round player we were interested in, Zach Kassian. Trade Phil for 2 1st rounders, Kassian and Buffalo's 1st (2010). We get a tough Lucic type guy. Imagine 2 Lucic's on a team, WOW!! Sign Mark Recchi for 1 year to fill in for Phil. Sturm is back for Bergeron's line. Sign Bitz, Hunwick. Saves 3-4 million that we now have for the end of the year if we need help. Also frees up space for a Soderberg, Hamil, Sobatka, or one of the #1 picks etc to make the team as the other needed forward.
We are OK with defense now and if we have to fix it later the 3-4 million is available which buys better quality for less money towards the end of the year.
Hossa to the BlackHawks according to TSN. Seems like teams are getting better. What will the Bruins do to get better? Will the Bruins get better? I know I will cheer for the Bruins no matter what, but I really would like to have alittle more hope that the Bruins will get better. I know the kids coming up will get the job done, but I would like a name to come in.
vince_m
The idea of the trade to Buffalo is not bad. We would get another tough guy and it would save us some room in salary. But I would like to see an improvement some where for this next season.
And vince, to be honest, if the Bruins just re-sign the free agents they have, I'd be more then happy.
Ohlund only got a 250k pay raise. I would have jumped all over that.
Looks like Conklin won't be in this New Years classic. He signed with the Blues.
I'm shocked at 12 years for Hossa. I could see that for a youngster, but that will make him 41 when the contract expires. Could have got more from the Habs of the Rangers, but he wants a chance to win the Cup. Blackhawks have some great young talent and are just going up.
As for the rumor of Komisarek coming here.... HELL NO!!
Roloson signs with the Isles!
Anderson with the Avs!
vince_m im srry to say that the bruins will most likely not do anything to get better. i wish the would take a chance but on hockeybuzz.com it says that cammaelli may be on his way to edmonton and havlat could be on his way to LA. i wanna maybe see the bruins go after marian gaborick, ino he wants too much but it would be awesome to see him in a bruins jersey. also hunwick may easily be gone by the end of today. reports have it that his agent is gettin tons of calls but not any from the bruins
montador signed w/ buffalo for 2 yr 1.55MM per yr. thank god, he sucked
Apparently Hunwick's getting lots of offers....
here's a trade:
kessel for phaneuf.
with calgary signing bouwmeester, he is available.
knuble just signed in washington...btw
Nice strategy by PC. Let the other 29 teams overpay & sit back & relax. The B's will very little today or in the relative near future as regards free agents. The team will be practically the same as last year. The following year when the cap goes down there will be more than a few teams in trouble and the B's can then pounce.
Patrick Kane, Jonathan Toews, Duncan Keith, Brent Seabrook all need to be signed. Can you say trade winds blowing in the Windy City? They need to move salary to keep their young core now.
Which one?
i dont give a shit because kessel has great talent and potential and the toronto GM wont give up kaberle so it will never happen and if they sign Kane,Toews and Keith or at least one they are younger then kaberle and better so you keep kessel and get a godd player then put fernandez on the free agency market to pick up kane or whover is left, which you then can bring up Rask who is better then fernandez and then u have more salary and can possibly get someone like a Keith to make a better roster when someone gets injured and get read of Sturm, Kobasew, Ference, Ward and axellson to get better first round draft picks and end up playing better hockey on younger brighter talent.
Anonymous, Kane, Toews and Keith are RFAs, so we can not just sign them.
Fernandez and Axellson are UFAs so we can't get picks, since they are not signed.
I'd be willing to trade Sturm and Ward for some wiggle room, so long as we re-signed Boychuk to be the #6 defensman. We have plenty of young guys to fill in for Sturm.... heck, he wasn't even on the team much last year. Resign Recchi for his leadership and skill.
Bulin wall goes to the Oilers.
friggin gill went to the habs
HAHAHAHA... Gill to Montreal!!
Gotta love it. From winning the stanley cup to dealing cocaine with the kostitsyn's. good call Hal.
Come on PC do something, anything.
vince_m
DAMN!!!!! St. Pierre signed with Ottawa. I was hoping to keep him. He showed a lot of promise.
OK forget my earlier post. The Bruins have made a splash and really improved our club. They re-signed Bitz. Great signing, but I was hoping besides re-signing someone and having our team in a holding pattern I was hoping for an addition to make our team better. We were a good team last year, now we have to build on that. Other teams recognize that and are improving and we are on the sidelines watching.
Now, Mtl has signed Cammalleri. Who can we get? I would love to see Heatly!!
heatley is most likely is going to edmonton and not the bruins. and the only person out there could be gaborick if ur lookin for a legit player. but i rlly hate the bruins approach when it comes to this time. they never come through with a significant signing to improve the team. its always been draft and develope. well its been enough of that. u have enough young talent. time to go out and get the big name player u need to put the bryuins over the top. but charelli is a pussy so he wont do it. god damn i hate the bruins at this time.
bruins dont need to do anything but stay healthy. if we had sturm...booyah
What's wrong with you people? They have no cap room. And with the 2010/2011 cap probably going down a bit, they can't make any big signings for the next couple years. Unless they make some significant trades. STOP WHINING!
i can't wait for the b's to come visit me in toronto...now that the leafs have komisarek...bruins will REALLY smash them!
I am sorry you are right. We can't sign anyone. We seem to not want Kessel anymore as we seem to be dangling him to Toronto. Let's hold onto him, even though we don't want him.
Don't get me wrong. I really like Kessel and wouldn't mind keeping him but everytime I look there is a trade in the works involving him. Either trade him and improve the club or hold onto him.
And you are also right. Let's be happy with making it to the 2nd round of the playoffs, we don't want to get to the finals. Improve the club - rework contracts, trade people that aren't performing. This is a business not a popularity contest. We are in this to win the Cup.
Sorry but I would like the Bruins to improve not just be a contender but to make.
Steve Begin signs with the B's for $850K. Is PC nuts or what? Also Boston Globe is reporting that Bitz gets $9.3M over 3 years. Surely PC has flipped.
that can't be true
See TSN re Begin.
Boston Globe must be dysplexic. It must be $3.9M over 3 years for Bitz.
yeah that part is fine...but bitz gets 3.1mil per year?
maybe thornton is getting the heave-ho.
Perhaps PC should get the heave-ho for signing Hab excrement.
Wow. Not what I was talking about. I said a splash not sucking it up. Where's Yelle and Recchi? I would have rather re-signed one or both of them.
PC - go forward not backward
You know who I was thinking the Bruins need to put them over the top and win the cup this year? Steve Begin! Of Course - An Ex-Montreal brawler who is good for atleast a -35 next year - Honestly, I'dd rather keep PJ that this idiot
We have to sew a M patch on our shoulder. Don't mind (really liked) signing Ryder last year. But if you want more Habs on our team why don't you go for Kovalev or Koviu? How about getting the equipment manager in the deal?
At least get some one that was good from the Habs.
At least we can now get past the 2nd round with this signing.
It's one thing to sit back & do nothing. It's completely unacceptable to go out & make your team worse. PC = Prominently Crazy. Signing Begin for $850K and buying out Schaeffer for a cap hit of $567K. Those $ could have been easily spent much more wisely.
i want kovalev. i think he may be a good fit w/ boston.
ryder-savard-kovalev???
krejci-wheeler-bitz
sturm-kobasew-bergeron
top 3 lines.
!@#$%^& -I can't believe that I may have to cheer for the likes of Begin this year. Damn it - I just can't do it. It's impossible. What is the reasoning of PC here? Surely Recchi or Yelle or God forbid, Ax, would be more palatable. Neely must have done a double take on that one. Perhaps after the Schaeffer buyout Neely punched PC in the head & he has not been the same since.
Steve Begin turns 32 next year - The Prime of his career. I think he is a bargain as he will easily put up 40-40 Numbers and maybe 50-50+...AND PLEASE stop shitting on me about releasing Schaefer - I only bought him out so we can resign him to a cheaper 30 mil/ 10 year deal as Cam says he is a younger version of him.
Ryder Begin Bitz
Wheeler Krejci Lucic
Sturm Burgeron Kobasew
Kessel Sobotka Schaefer
PC would not manage a one seat shit house.
no savard? awful job this yr of free-agent signing. go get gaborik
Savard needs some seasoning before playing with the big boys again. I know he's had some good years in Boston but I think this is an even newer kind of NHL this year where guys like Begin and Schaefer will lead us to the cup....
AGREED ANONYMOUS! GABORIK WOULD BE AN AMAZING SIGNING FOR THIS BOSTON CLUB! WE WOULD HAVE SO MUCH FIRE POWER! HEY PC BETTER RESIGN KESSEL OR IM GONNA WRITE A NASTY LETTER
Well Gibby4 and Anonymous, I feel Gaborik would be a good pickup for this team however, his constant injuries are what concern me. Kessel is a real good player but I am sick of his off ice antics. He doesn't mesh well in this city and what we really need is more guys like Begin and Schaefer. I think you will be pleased with what I have built over the last few years...I mean honestly, without me the Boston franchise would have moved to Hamilton by now
Gibby4 u like that?? too bad he made 7.5MM last yr and probly would want round 6-6.5MM this yr and with that retarded signing of begin gives the bruins under 6MM cap space.
bruins4cuPiN-10
who ever is being an asshole and fuckin around sayin ur charelli stop. cuz it really isnt that funny
Its actually CHIARELLI and please don't swear on the site, it only makes you sound unintelligent and hostile.
After signing Begin & Bitz, we only have $4M left in cap space.
Try adding a 1 in front of that 4 anonymous, we clearly have 14 Million left to spend.
just Sign kessel, Trade ward, Ference, Sturm and trade for kovalev
if its rlly u then can u tell us if u made a run at hossa? or if u will take a chance and try to sign kovalev possibly?
i give up.
this is so stupid. unless this is setting up for somthing huge, i give up
haha true willis tru.
Honestly, I think the team we have is better than it was last year already. Provided we keep Kessel (which we will) and don't make any bad moves the Bruins are looking like Eastern Conference leaders again. Only this time with more experience. Tukka Rask will be an upgrade over Fernandez and a healthy Sturm can more than make up for the offense we lacked during the Carolina Series. Bergeron is going to find his way and finally become the player we paid him to be. Plus, it looks like we wont be able to sign Axelsson, so anyone from Providence that replaces him will be an instant upgrade there. Have Faith in this team - We don't need guys like Kovalev and Gaborik - we had the best team in the Eastern Conference last year that had an unfortunate hiccup in the playoffs...big deal, we can take any team next year - GO BRUINS
Willisss - trust me give up. This was the huge signing that will take us over the top.
I have no comment at this time...All I can say is that Cam and I are working on something that the fans will most likely be excited about...It involves a marquee player whose last name IS NOT Crosby...Good Day
P.S. Where is MOOK at? I am looking for a new assistant GM
If we traded our whole team, we couldn't crosby, DUH
i dunno if i should believe this or not. this could be some guy punkin us right now. or it could be a huge type of thing. i hope the marquee player is not kessel or recchi.
It's probably Axe!
we cant trade kessel for kaberle anymore can we?
ya, we will trade the rights for kessel to toronto
Gibby4 If we could trade our whole team for Crosby and then call up guys from providence for the rest of the year would you make the deal?
i rather not. kaberle isnt that good. i rather try and sign a goal scorer
HELL NO, Crosby is over- rated (in some ways)
yo gibby join the chat room, and everyone join the chat room so its easier than this
ok
it doesn't work, im at the library right now, and the effing computers suck, so can you guys just talk her please
yee np
No Yelle this year. Per todays conference call, PC states that Begin takes his spot.
Wasn't Begin the one who hit Savard in the 2008 playoffs?
PC says that there are still some iron in the fire & this includes Recchi.
so how much did we sign bitz for?
relax...we still have the same team as last year. would i take begin over yelle? yes i would.
yes, that was begin who broke savard's back two playoffs ago, but at least we didn't sign komi. hey, begin is a tough dirty player and if we had that it may have made a difference against carolina (who basically knocked us off with dirty plays).
whatever...if begin drops kovalev with a stick to the eye and gets a season suspension it's 850k well spent
johnny boychuk resigned for 1 year
am i the only one who likes the begin signing? yea i know he played for the habs, but they traded him because im pretty sure he wanted out of there. so thats a good thing. and he is tough, which just in case you guys have not figured out yet, pc loves. fourth line of bitz thornton and begin, not bad.
although i do think this is all leading up to a big trade, and im not talking kaberle bull shit. if the bruins trade kessel it better be for a young puck moving d-man with no fucken injury problems. kevin bieksa...do it!!!
bieksa? thats a new theory....and i'm alllll for it. the guys nasty
i have one player on my mind right now...his name is matt hunwick. this is one guy we cant give away. he cant be that much to keep...
kevin bieksa
If you can do I would like that.
vince_m
the thing is that there is enough good young puck moving d-men out there, that im sure the bruins could make a trade for. thats why i dont know why the bruins are looking at kaberele, dont get wrong he is great, but he is older and has injury problems. if you are going to trade kessel, just do it for a young d-men, not old.
maybe phaneuf would be available, but it would probably have to be a salary dump, like ference top prospects and first round picks.
and keeping hunwick is a must, or else we are going to need two puck moving D. no way pc lets him go.
anything happening today?
Habs got Gionta
Recchi resigned.
I like the Recchi deal. i year for 1 mil. He took a pay cut to come back. His leadership will be a huge boost.
Now sign Hunwick and either sign Kessel and trade Sturm or trade Kessel.
package up sturm, kessel and a pick/prospect for heatley. resign hunwick.
done. I'd be content with that.
Everyone is talking about needing a puck-moving defenseman, what about Marc-Andre Bergeron? how much would he have to be paid to play in Boston?
MA Bergeron only made 1.7 mil last year. I was thinking the same thing. If we could move Ward, Bergeron would fit nicely.
da wreck, as much as I would love Heatley playing along side Savard again, I have to admit, his salary scares me. To have 2 players making 7.5 per, would really handcuff us next season when the cap goes down.
What about Kessel, Ward and a 1st or 2nd for Weber and Ryan Jones.
Or the same package to Minn for Schultz and Benoit Pouliot.
Or????
http://www.sportscity.com/nhl/2009-nhl-unrestricted-free-agents-by-position/
Good Website to see remaining UFAs.
I like the MA bergeron idea and getting rid of ward, what about signing Max Afenigenov or Petr Sykora? dump sturm and kobesew for a large forward or Picks/prospects
Lucic Savard Kessel
wheeler Krejci Ryder
Afinogenov/Sykora bergeron Recchi
Thornton Begin Bitz
Chara M-A Bergeron
Wideman Hunwick
Ference Stuart
Boychuck
Thomas Rask
KESSEL IS A MUST SIGN FOR THIS CLUB
i like everything so far, but i think it is all going to set up a trade.
i think we can live without sturm, ward and ference, and packaging them wit prospects and picks is good enough to land a puck moving d-man. obviously you would have to split them up, but sturm a goal scorer, and ference, a small contract and a solid mobile d-men with prospects is going to get you something. probably would have to dump ward, for nothing.
re-sign kessel and we are all set.
Is this all a prelude to something larger? If so I like where PC is going. I like MA Bergeron from the Wild, how about Beauchemin? Or how about a package for Heatly?
I can see 1 or maybe 2 small moves and we will be set for next year.
I disagree with trading Sturm and/or Kobasew. Sturm was on fire the games he played this year and both of these guys do the little things that win games. Kobasew had a great year and I think with Sturm, we would have won the cup. Resign Kessel, see what Hunwick and Boychuk can do in camp and panic later. This team is poised to do damage next year.
BYRON BITZ:
The big winger will earn $675,000 in the upcoming season and then get bumped to $700,000 in 2010-'11.
according to the globe.
Whoever said he got 9.3mil over 3 yrs is on crack.
trade yelle for begin? YES.
It would have to be a really substantial deal to get Shea Weber, otherwise it'll never happen.
Yay Recchi resigned, at a great price too!
this is killing me...what the hellllll is going to happen here?
lets just get datsyuk and be done with it
You are all retarded. I have never read so many stupid comments in my life.
How does Leopold get 1.75 when Scuderi gets 3.4? Does not make sense.
And would the fake Cam Neely, please jump off the Tobin!!!
I think, what is it excellent idea.
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