Salary Cap Breakdown
Forwards- 8 under contract
RFA- David Krejci, Phil Kessel, Byron Bitz
UFA- Stephane Yelle, PJ Axelsson
Marc Savard - 5.0
Patrice Bergeron - 4.75
Michael Ryder - 4.0
Marco Sturm - 3.5
Blake Wheeler - 2.825
Chuck Kobasew - 2.2
Milan Lucic - 0.850
Shawn Thornton - 0.517
Defensemen- 5 under contract
RFA- Matt Hunwick
UFA- Shane Hnidy, Steve Mondator
Zdeno Chara - 7.5
Dennis Wideman - 3.875
Aaron Ward - 2.5
Andrew Ference - 1.4
Mark Stuart - 1.3
Goaltenders- 2 under contract
UFA- Manny Fernandez
Tuuka Rask - 3.2
Tim Thomas - 5.0
Buyout - Glen Murray - 1.383
Total - $49.8 million
Expected cap ceiling- $55 million
Cap Space to sign Krejci, Kessel, Hunwick, fourth line LW and C - $5.2 million.
Not a lot of cap space whatsoever. Does Rask now become available since his cap hit is so high, especially for a backup goaltender? Are the Bruins expecting another team to sign Kessel or Krejci to an offer? Interesting questions to think about at this point. Ward may be a goner, either by buyout or trade. The Bruins will probably also need to dump a forward (Kobasew, Sturm, Bergeron, even Wheeler?)
RFA- David Krejci, Phil Kessel, Byron Bitz
UFA- Stephane Yelle, PJ Axelsson
Marc Savard - 5.0
Patrice Bergeron - 4.75
Michael Ryder - 4.0
Marco Sturm - 3.5
Blake Wheeler - 2.825
Chuck Kobasew - 2.2
Milan Lucic - 0.850
Shawn Thornton - 0.517
Defensemen- 5 under contract
RFA- Matt Hunwick
UFA- Shane Hnidy, Steve Mondator
Zdeno Chara - 7.5
Dennis Wideman - 3.875
Aaron Ward - 2.5
Andrew Ference - 1.4
Mark Stuart - 1.3
Goaltenders- 2 under contract
UFA- Manny Fernandez
Tuuka Rask - 3.2
Tim Thomas - 5.0
Buyout - Glen Murray - 1.383
Total - $49.8 million
Expected cap ceiling- $55 million
Cap Space to sign Krejci, Kessel, Hunwick, fourth line LW and C - $5.2 million.
Not a lot of cap space whatsoever. Does Rask now become available since his cap hit is so high, especially for a backup goaltender? Are the Bruins expecting another team to sign Kessel or Krejci to an offer? Interesting questions to think about at this point. Ward may be a goner, either by buyout or trade. The Bruins will probably also need to dump a forward (Kobasew, Sturm, Bergeron, even Wheeler?)
posted by Pekese at 9:50 AM
48 Comments:
say goodbye to kessel or krejci. pointless to have 8.2 million for 2 goaltenders. tell pc they both cant play at the same time.
whatever happened to murray and his insurance clain? that would add cap space..
thomas is a very tradable commodity...we'll know by mid-season next year.
f-kessel...f-ward...f-sturm.
in year 2 and 3 do you think thomas will be worth 5 million? probably not. the guy is already 35. this is the second coming of chris osgood. not good.
The only overpaid guy is chara -
I think he is a great player but not for 7.5 mil - He is about a 4-5 mil player - In my opinion there is not one player in the league which I would pay over 7mil. To bad he could not chop back his salary in order to keep the K's - I am not sure how long Lucic is signed for but he is worth more than .85 - his salary will surely go up huge when the time comes. If it comes down to it I would let Kessel go before Lucic or Krejci. I think Bergeron will prove his worth - I would bet he will end up as the leading scorer for the Bruins through the playoffs
Bergy, i love ya, but you have an uncertain future and a big contract.
bubye
I was a bit surprised to hear it's 5.2, I was thinking more like 4, but he has earned it.
I dont think PC wants to see Kessel or Krejci go, or Bergeron for that matter. Also bear in mind that Kessel, Krejci and Hunwick are all RFA's. Depending on what happens in the playoffs, more leverage can be gained for PC to explain that they are working a system of "you get what you deserve, when it's your time". If the players realize its a team PC is building, things will work out just fine. We may depart with a couple Bruins in the offseason, but its a business.
Krejci is due for a pretty big raise, most likely the same thing they did for Phil, around the 2 million mark per. While Kessel will get a raise, it wont be a huge one as he is a RFA, and showed some inconsistency this season, playing flat after returning from injuries. I am thinking a raise from 2.2 to 3.5.
Hunwick wont get a huge raise, most likey get around 1 -1.5 mill at the most.
The Bruns may have cap issues next year, but lets try to enjoy this one still.
Go Bruins!!!!
4 fucking years! 4 years?????????? are you serious. hell be 39 byt he time its all done. i want krejci and kessel back. fuck.
why would we keep david krejci?
all the guy turned out to be is an unbelieveable award winning forward with amazing hands, tons of control, the want to win, with even more potential to be one of the best, whos only 22...now come on...who would want THAT on our team?
if krejci goes, it will be a very dark and sad day to be a bruins fan.
here me out...
yelle? UFA...gone. hell of a vet. but gone
pj? i love the guy, always have...but it may be time to make some room and im not trying to put him down butttt odd man out? id be fine with it.
sturm? again...love him. i dont love his age or his fragile body. i wouldnt be heart broken
ward? buyout. all day long. i listen to him on wbcn and i wont lie, hes kind of the man. but we need to make room
hindy? the guy is a bad ass. but hes also a scratch for the most part.
we need guys like hunwick kessel and krejci to stick around. guys like sobotka and st pierre can get it done when their number is called ..somtimes.
yeaa yeaa and manny will be gone. jefe will be pummmmped
willisss your an idiot
why? because im right?
your an idiot to suspect hnidy will be gone, the guy makes nothing and is a seventh d-man, he will be back i think. you dont need to buy out ward, he still has value, you can dump him to a young team that needs a solid vet. i would not count out yelle either, the guy is valuable and makes next to nothing.
i have been a huge supporter of thomas, the guy deserved to get paid, but we overpaid here big fucken time, and it pisses me off. it would be one thing if the guy was 25, he is way to old. you think anybody else would have offered him a deal like this? no way, good teams who need goaltending, like philly, can not afford it. should have waited till the off season, so thomas would play with a chip on his shoulder during the playoffs, because he would be looking for a payday, and we could have gotten him cheaper.
now you bet your ass somebody will get moved, and i hate to say it but its going to be bergeron. the reason being that we can trade him, and get something back, picks or whatever, but something. also would not be surprised to see them move sturm, which would suck because i love the guy as well.
pc- you have done lots of good for us, but your an idiot for making this deal now, your an idiot for paying as much as you did, for as long as you did. you overpaid for ward last year, and now you overpaid for thomas. learn how to play the fucken game, you useless harvard grad fuck!!!
by the way, the cap hit is 6 million the first two years, 5 million the third year and 3 million the fourth year.
Why worry about all that shit. I'll think about any of it after the B's win the Stanley Cup or when they go down trying. Dead Issue. Talk about it at the end of June.
GO B'S
psands, the cap hit is different from the annual salaries. The cap hit is the yearly average of the length of the contract. 20 million over 4 years give Thomas a cap hit of $5 million each season despite the front loaded salaries.
how about schaffers hit on the cap we must be able to save a bit on that.
Schaeffer's entire contract does not affect the Bruins cap. Since he was sent to the minors and was not claimed by any NHL team, the Bruins pay his full salary despite playing the whole season in Providence. However, that money has no affect on the NHL salary cap. So, in other words, they still have to pay him $2.1 million for this season and next but counts for 0 against the cap. Unless he is placed on waivers or recalled then it will be the same scenario next season. Since the Bruins cannot afford to pay an underachieving soft forward that kind of money, expect him to finish out his contract in Providence.
To further clarify Thomas' contract(and the reason for the front loaded aspect), if the Bruins chose to buy out his contract in the 4th year, where his salary is 3 million, then they will be on the hook for only $1 million. That $1 million would count against the cap for year 4 and also the year following the buyout. Having the smaller salary at the end gives the Bruins options just incase a 39 year old goaltender plays like a 39 year old goaltender.
To follow up on Pekese's explanation of the annual cap hit; The fourth year on this deal works in the Bruins favor, as they will be afforded a cheap buy out option, or if Thomas is still playing good, he's theirs.
i have to pretty much agree with williss on Krejci, and a few other points. PC will find space to keep Krejci, and Kessel who are absolute priorities in my opinion. You dont have quality guys at that age slip away if you can help it.
Hunwick wont recieve a very large pay raise, and Bergeron wont be traded, he is much too valuable. Even they both are good players and a big part of this team, I suspect either Sturm or Chuck might get moved, Hnidy and Montador most likely goners, as the Bruins will sign Hunwick for around 1 mill, and see how prospects compete in camp.
Also, dont be so sure Rask will be playing in Boston next year. It might make perfect sense to play him in yet, one more season in Providence.
Psands, I didnt want Thomas re-signed before playoffs either, but lets not forget he is motivated to prove people wrong. It seems to be a reccurring theme in the Boston lockerroom. PC is doing what he should; deservedly paying a UFA goalie who has posted the best numbers in the past two seasons combined. This move shows the team that when you work hard to succeed, you are rewarded.
Sinden or O' Connel might have hard-balled Thomas due to his age, and lack of playoff experience, but PC has shown a trend of rewarding those who have earned it. The Bruins had a nasty rep for dissing players who wanted to cash in, but stay in Boston. PC has proved to the league, when its your time, which is usually unrestricted free agency after a great string of season performances.
It happens to be Tim Thomas' time. And now, he needs to put his money where my mouth has been.
Go Bruins.
I agree Jefe77. Although it may be time for Tukka, I believe it would be wise from the Bruins financial point of view to hold him back for 1 more year. The B's can grab a 2nd string goalie in the off season. This time next year Rask will be a RFA. A lot can happen in a year. He may be the subject of an offer sheet, but unless your the Oilers I don't see anyone paying an inexperienced NHL goalie in excess of $3M. If the Bruins can get a relatively cheap & good backup for Thomas next year they will be fine. As for the forwards I wouldn't be surprised to see Sturm bought out. Don't the Bruins have a strong Swede forward ready next year?
I see most people here calling PC an idiot and has no clue what the hell he is doing.
What are you? Stupid? Blind? Retarded? Or just don't have a fucking clue?
What has PC done so far is brought a team that was going nowhere and no one wanted to play for to a team that is first in the East and that players want to play for. Wheeler could have gone to 29 other teams but chose us. That shows that young players know that this is a team that cares for their players and will develop them properly.
PC will do what needs to be done - like it or not it has to be done. I don't agree with alot of his choices but later on I don't hate them as much.
Just my 2 cents, like or not.
vince_m
Catch 22!! This is a signing that the Bruins had to do. Having said that however, where does that leave us now? Either Tukka sits another year as suggested to free up cap space or we lose roster players who play the Bruins system perfectly. Either way, as quick as the Bruin's window of opportunity has come open, it will begin to close again next year.
tuukka was ripppp shit that he wasnt in boston this year...imagine how pissed he would be if he spent another year in provi. i agree with yanking an ufa in the summer to play backup. rask is young...he'll get over it.
when it comes to losing a roster player, i dont even knowww who i would begin to suggest. patrice has been the poster child of our entire franchise, when hes on, the man is unreal. chuck has great vision of the game and plays his part perfectly. we did this well without marco and as much as a sturm fan as i am, i wouldnt spend a night polishing off a bottle of jack in depresion if we sent him off to keep our young guns.
vince, noones calling out pc, but do you honestly think thomas wasnt maybe a TAD over paid? am i calling pc a moron? no. noones calling him out, wer just a little confused.
i pray to the gods of hockey to detroy and demoralize the bitch habs in the playoffs.
Right on maninblack. It's 'pick your poison' time for Bruins. I'm sure that the current players realize the situation too and perhaps that will inspire them even further to get the cup now!!
my statement on trading bergeron was stupid, and the more i think about it the thomas signing is not that bad, even though i still don't completely agree with the years.
Vince M your right, pc knows what he is doing and almost everything he has done so far has worked out. he has turned the team around. i over reacted in my post last night but whatever.
i am sure pc has a plan in place to keep the core guys with the team, but he will still have to make some trades. sturm and ward make sense to me.
i'm done thinking about this now, the best time of the year is coming up, playoff time, and the Bruins are the 1 seed. Go Bruins!!!
beasts of the east...i love it
without detroit and sj the west is brutal
that's why they have so many points...
anon is right about the playoff teams. but they have more balance for middle of the pack teams where the east has good playoff teams but just as many awful teams. it evens out IMO at the end.
Thomas has put in his time, and time and time again showed that he is the real deal. He's the reason we've clinched the conference. He deserves every penny.
tits
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get rid of ward and axe
ward is always injured and axe is a dumbass that can't score
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Just got back from Boston today....what a city !!! We had a blast and watched the B's beat the Sens and NYR to clinch the East !!
Can't lie the highlight was Timmy going after Avery...what an ass !! Bring on the Rangers in the first round !!
What a great city and a bunch of class guys. Got a chance to meet Wideman, Hunwick, Recchi, Yelle, Kobasew, Julien and Bergy !! All had time to stop and sign and have a picture taken !!
Thanks Boston for a great trip....you have an awesome city and a great team !!
You will hear me cheering during the play-offs from Winnipeg !!
Glad to hear you enjoyed the town Birdman, you picked a good weekend to visit.
If the Bruins won out the season, they would finish with the second highest point total at 120, only 1 point behind the 70-71 season.
I knew they could win the conference, but damn, this season has been one for us to never forget. Now for the real season to start...
Go Bruins!!!
Birdman, where you out on Causway street? It was cold, and after Hnidy, too many players were just blowing through the crowd so we left.
I got a chance to shout "Polo" After everyone tried to get sturm to stop.
"Marco!" (me) "Polo!" (dirty looks)
hahahaha
What a good game. I was in row 4 in section 11, right in front of the show titled "Avery's face, my boards." I enjoyed every second of that.
MC.....we met most of them before the Thurs Sens game....there was only about 5 of us out there ! We walked by on Saturday but there was a ton of people and the weather sucked....so we went and drank beer instead !!
so how serious is this ference injury? wideman?
wideman was right back out there...no word of ference. keep our fingers crossed
Backstrom got 6 milliona year
thomas would have gotten 6.5 easily. Goalie is more important han Kessel, but all is needed to keep this team good, scratch that, GREAT.
I say lose/trade the following
Sturm, Ward. (6 million, plus 6 we have) That leaves us 12 million for krecki, Kessel, Hunwick and a couple of under million players , most likely Providence call ups.
Why does everyone have such a boner for Patrice Bergeron? What has he done for the Boston Bruins? Is he the same player since his concussion of last season? I certainly don't think so. Trade him for a quality (Tampa NYI or Col.)second and fourth rounder and re-sign Krejci and Kessel. P.S. as far as the Tuukka situation goes I'd hate to see him leave, perhaps he could split with Thomas next season. Wardo should be Gonzo, I'm sure we could trade him to a re-building contender he should have some value he can still play the game. Marco Sturm was out all season and didn't slow the Bruins down one bit, he is not necessary to the success of this team and can also be dealt for picks.
Benny... I agree with you except the Bergeron opinion. Bergeron is a great team guy and I think is very valuable in the room as well as the ice ! Yes his numbers have dipped with the injuries but I think he is slowly returning to form. The team has shown faith in keeping him and this shows other guys (around the league) this team cares about it's guys. Helps in bringing in guys..Wheeler an example !
People that look at stats are retared or 5 years old. He wins 55% of faceoffs, you know how much a difference that makes?? Ask bruins of 2001 and 2003 who lost to habs due to not winning.
He kills penalties, Can play at point, is as good defensively as any forward. Hes great set up man, steals pucks.
Maybe not worth 5 million due to concussions, but each and every game hes playing better and better.
Patrice Bergeron is a BRUIN. He fits the style of hockey we play here and puts in as much if not more effort than any body else on the team.
His numbers aren't the same because he's not being asked to do the same. He's the third line center guys, give him a break.
That being said, he's expensive, and he'd be tough to trade without being in the short end. I say he's worth holding onto, just wait and see.
I will be very upset if krejci does not get resigned. He has been my favorite player on the bruins this year...
Love ya krej.... Yes, I'm a girl.
gotta trade thomas...not only is he 35, overpaid, and holding back our franchise goalie rask, but he also sucks! people need to realize his numbers are a mirage of the bruins defensive system, mannys numbers were the same when he was healthy. and i don't get this infatuation with thomas...the guy has done nothing for us. oh man hes 35 and made the playoffs for the second time in his career, and they won a series! wow i guess hes the real deal. bruins can't win a cup with him, i can't wait until rask is our #1, thomas never makes a big save when you need him to, he's too busy making up excuses for the goals hes about to give up
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