Oiler's scouting Bruins
From Today's Globe. Kevin Paul Dupont's Notes.
Dave Semenko, who made his bones in the NHL as Wayne Gretzky's sidecar policeman during their great years together in Edmonton, now scouts for the Oilers, and has been showing up lately at Bruins games. He attended the Bruins-Canadiens match Sunday in Montreal, and he was here last night to see the Bruins beat the Flyers, 3-1.
Boston general manager Peter Chiarelli, when queried about Semenko's presence, flashed a broad smile and simultaneously offered a pronounced shrug of his shoulders. The third-year GM steadfastly refuses to address trade speculation - just as he won't discuss contract negotiations - which leaves the media able only to speculate about what moves could be afoot.
The Oilers, still in the hunt for one of the final playoff seeds in the Western Conference, are in need of a winger to play on the Shawn Horcoff-Ales Hemsky line. They also could use help at the faceoff circle, where Horcoff takes most of the draws.
The Bruins would have great interest in ex-Hurricanes winger Erik Cole, the big, smooth-skating winger. He has 12 goals and 22 points in 50 games this season. Cole, 30, who is making $4 million this season, becomes an unrestricted free agent July 1. The Bruins could fit him into the salary cap because they have Marco Sturm's $3.5 million at their disposal, following the German winger's season-ending knee surgery.
The Oilers likely would target the likes of winger Vladimir Sobotka (now in Providence) and/or defenseman Matt Hunwick (sidelined with flu-like symptoms) in a swap for Cole.
If the Bruins can pull off a trade for Cole and only give up one of Sobotka or Hunwick plus a pick or two, then I would pull the trigger on this one. Cole has not had the greatest offensive season but does possess a scoring threat, something Bergeron's line lacks. Putting Axelsson back on the fourth line gives everybody their best opportunity to succeed. However, if the Bruins need to give up both players plus picks, I do not see Chiarelli making the move.
Dave Semenko, who made his bones in the NHL as Wayne Gretzky's sidecar policeman during their great years together in Edmonton, now scouts for the Oilers, and has been showing up lately at Bruins games. He attended the Bruins-Canadiens match Sunday in Montreal, and he was here last night to see the Bruins beat the Flyers, 3-1.
Boston general manager Peter Chiarelli, when queried about Semenko's presence, flashed a broad smile and simultaneously offered a pronounced shrug of his shoulders. The third-year GM steadfastly refuses to address trade speculation - just as he won't discuss contract negotiations - which leaves the media able only to speculate about what moves could be afoot.
The Oilers, still in the hunt for one of the final playoff seeds in the Western Conference, are in need of a winger to play on the Shawn Horcoff-Ales Hemsky line. They also could use help at the faceoff circle, where Horcoff takes most of the draws.
The Bruins would have great interest in ex-Hurricanes winger Erik Cole, the big, smooth-skating winger. He has 12 goals and 22 points in 50 games this season. Cole, 30, who is making $4 million this season, becomes an unrestricted free agent July 1. The Bruins could fit him into the salary cap because they have Marco Sturm's $3.5 million at their disposal, following the German winger's season-ending knee surgery.
The Oilers likely would target the likes of winger Vladimir Sobotka (now in Providence) and/or defenseman Matt Hunwick (sidelined with flu-like symptoms) in a swap for Cole.
If the Bruins can pull off a trade for Cole and only give up one of Sobotka or Hunwick plus a pick or two, then I would pull the trigger on this one. Cole has not had the greatest offensive season but does possess a scoring threat, something Bergeron's line lacks. Putting Axelsson back on the fourth line gives everybody their best opportunity to succeed. However, if the Bruins need to give up both players plus picks, I do not see Chiarelli making the move.
posted by Pekese at 9:12 AM
29 Comments:
Do it.... Do it...... Do it.....
Cole for Sob and a draft pick - even first round I would be all over it. We could throw in Jack Edwards and a bag of hammer handles. Actually give then a set of playoff tickes, Jack and the hammer handles for nothing.
Haha, what about Axelsson for Cole AND another player. The way the Bruins value axelsson you would think he could bring back whatever the bruins were to offer.
I love the fourth line of bitz-yelle-thornton. Screw axelsson, get him out of here and bring in cole.
Axelsson belongs on the 4th. Tell me another team that has a more solid 4th line than Axy, Yelle, and Thornton. NO ONE.
However I love Sobotka's physical presence and toughness along the boards while maintaining puck control. Hunwick is a young puck moving defenseman that all teams would love.
I SAY NO DEAL!!!
he belongs onthe fourth line but with julien or lewis as a coach he will never be put on the fourth line. if he is used on the fourth line and fourth line only then fine keep him. but that will never happen.
does anyone notice how he is ALWAYS out of position usually on the right side of the ice instead of his left wing position on the left side of the ice? The team follows the system perfectly, except for him... what gives??? Bergerons line sucks at breaking out cuz kobasew now has to go to the left side boards and that leaves two wingers on their off wings. receiving the puck along the boards and making breakout passes on your offwing is much more difficult and the reason bergerons line is the ONLY line that cannot break out of the defensive zone.
tough call - I think Hunwick will be a good player - I would not get rid of him - Sob - Nok - Lash - St P - Bitz - Stuart I think are all tradable for the right guy. The rumors for Colorado's Svatos and Leopold sound much more interesting than Cole or whoever that looser from Toronto is.
anon, i too noticed he has been wandering so much recently. i didnt notice it early in the season but it seems like every night im yellin at the tv for pj to play his wing.
Im gonna say this, because no one else will. Bergeron is not who he use to be. He is slow and scared and we should move him. He also is terrible on the powerplay at the point position and cant keep the puck in the zone(where as wideman always does) Savard should be assitant captain as well.
just a few thoughts of mine
Patty G the kid
Everyone who knows the bruins realizes Bergeron is half of what he was two years ago - I think it would be a mistake to get rid of him - With what he has been through i think it will take a few months of steady playing to return him to form. I doubt many teams would take a chance on him now, and to loose him for a pick would be stupid - Getting rid of him tells all the other players that they are worthless - this would destroy the chemistry the team has. A team which is tight will go much further than a team of all stars - Look at the rangers - all the talent in the world and they still suck.
It'd be a big mistake for the Bruins for sure and also because of his injury history, his Salary and Length of contract, the Bruins definitely wouldn't get what they wanted or deserved for him. Remember Simon Gagne was out with concussions, and he's back playing well. It takes time.
Bergeron is a Bruin, a damn good one, and we ABSOLUTELY need to be patient with him.
The only way to get him back to form, is to play him.
I think Savvy should be an assistant as well, but really who cares about that, the whole team is tight. Bergie has put too much heart into this team the last 5 years to not be a captain.
On Cole, he will be a rental, so what do you all want to see go for nothing?
Hunwick? FUCK NO! Sobotka? I say no as well, he is a protege Bruin.
A first rounder? Maybe.
Overall; NO DEAL!!!!!
i wouldnt mind the leopold and svatos for lashoff/fernendez or soemthing like that. They say hejduk might be on the market but he has another year on his contract and unless sturm goes next year i dont see him on this team,
i would throw sobokta not hunwick....hunwick is a key piece to the future
trade pj, not that i dont like him as a fourth line player but if we move him to the fourth line with shawn and yelle that is a bitchy third line. bitz brings the toughness that is needed on the fourth line, thornton-yelle-bitz line is doing to good to break up anyways. does anyone else think that yelle and pj are the same exact player?
What about Soderberg?
*bitchy fourth line^^^
i agree axelsson and yelle are basically the same. except yelle can win faceoffs and plaay with some grit, unlike everyones favorite player.
Anyone watch the playoffs in 2006? if the answer to that is "yes" then sobotka and a 1st/2nd rounder for erik cole should be an automatic yes.
myself i would love to see schafer and lashof packaged. i am just curious why semenko was following the bruins if both hunwick and sobotka weren't in the lineup. who else would they be watching hmmmm....
Wow I know players have bad games but holy shit PJ almost cost us that game not once but twicehe turn over the puck in our end that lead too a couple easy goals for the sens. Now can anyone answer this if it was Kessel that turn over those pucks he would be riding the bench. So why does PJ get special treatment ? Dont get me wrong I like Claude but what the fuck was he thinking.
I agree....if he is a defensive guy, those were 2 HUGE turnovers !! And still he is out there, 1st line P.P. P.J. has his place...he is here for 3rd line at best and in the room !!
false, you nailed it right on the head. pj will never have to suffer any consequences for any of his awful decision. instead he gets rewarded.
Thanks guys I was beginning to think that I was the only guy out there seeing all PJ mistakes. When I say this Im not joking I rather see Thornton on the 1st line or pp over PJ. Thornton has less ice time and has usually scores on all his scoring chance. PJ has scored more goals into an empty net, then with a goalie and its not like he has'nt had lots of chances he just cant finish. So stop putting this guy where he doesnt belong.
Hey, I think PJ is a valuable player, but i agree;
PLAY HIM where he belongs!!!
Jefe Thats totally what I mean. Yes I feel hes an asset but there are only a few hockey players in the NHL that can play outside there box and PJ is not one of them. Im sure alot of you guys have played hockey before so you should know when you got a PP your best players went out and the only way that players like PJ got time on the PP was if we where spanking that team.
I do agree Fallse, he should be used accordingly. There probably are a good number of fans who dont play, but the Bruins getting better will help them learn (hopefully). I play goal on ice and D in roller down here in socal where hockey is flourishing. Seems like everyone is a hockey fan down here now.
Lotsa Ontario and Mass transplants too, my last team we had 3 guys from New Hampshire (including myself), one Albertan and two Ontarians. 3 shutties and a championship...We fuckin lit it up.
You still play Fallse?
Fallse and Jefe,
I agree with both of you. I've noticed many of the Bruins players (Kessel, Lucic, Kobasew, Ryder, Sturm, Wheeler) get some type of doghouse treatment for mental mistakes and bad turnovers. Although some of these players are younger and have less experience, shouldn't all players have to suffer the same consequences?
isnt that why julien was fired from nj???????
Are you kidding Im going to die with my skates on. I cant get enough of hockey its basically my life after my junior c years its been the beer leagues. I started on a real shitty team so I stuck out like a sore thumb and guys where running me down but if your anything like me that just drives me more. I carried my team too the playoffs for the first time in 7 years. Since then I did our scouting, pick up some good friends and we won two championship in 6 years. Sorry not trying to blow my own horn but Im proud of what I've done for my team and if you had of seen them back in the day you would be too. Cause Damn No Joke.
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