Ward Resigns for 2 years
Aaron Ward has resigned with the Bruins at $2.5 million for the next two season. This is a pretty good deal although it is hard to understand why the Bruins would not target Dennis Wideman, a much more valuable defenseman and part of the team, before resigning Ward. The Bruins now have 5 defensemen under contract for next season. Wideman and Mark Stuart are restricted free agents, both of whom are expected to return and probably will. Matt Lashoff is also under contract, this may be an indication he will be in Providence for another year. This deal may also mean the Bruins do not make a push for Marian Hossa come July 1st. If they are pursuing him, they are going to have to shed some salary. Glen Murray, Peter Schaeffer and Manny Fernandez will be tough sells to any GM in the league. Therefore, if the Bruins are trying to add Hossa, then valuable players such as Ference($1.4 million) or P.J. Axelsson($1.85 million) may have to become expendable to free up the necessary salary.
posted by Pekese at 11:15 PM
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You could stll go after Hossa, remember you have $8 million coming off the books after next year...so you sign Hossa to a 5 year $35-$40 Million contract and you back load the rest of the agreement.
Year 1 - $4 Million
Year 2-5 - $7.75 Million
I am not sure the NHL allows playing games with salaries like that. Everything I have seen in terms of cap hit is take the total contract amount and divide by the number of years, but I could be wrong.
This is tough but hopefully Chiarelli fills his roster with players that fits the teams system just like another team in the area.
But yea if that were the case Kessel would have been traded for him at the deadline.
Our PP will improve with Bergeron back. I still say don't go after Hossa. You would like to think production will increase from Kessel, Krecji, Sturm, Kobasew, and Savard.
No - the NHL doesn't govern how someones salary is divided. I think if you look at some of the deals the Flyers and Rangers did this past off-season you can see that some money is loaded up-front vs. on the back...I think it was Briere's deal....
Don't worry guys...someone on this site knows what he's talking about....
The contract is heavily front-loaded, with Briere to make $10 million next season -- double what he made last year. He'll then make $8 million in the next two years and $7 million during the 2010-13 seasons. The contract then tapers off with Briere scheduled to make $3 million in 2013-14 and $2 million in the final year of the deal.
yes but his cap hit every year is the same. If Hossa signs a contract that pays him 10,10,5,5,5 he will have an annual cap hit of 7 mil a year. Even in the last year when he is costing 5mil in actual dollars he is costing the team 7mil in cap-dollars. Teams front- and back-load contracts in terms of ther un-cap-related payroll.
www.nhlnumbers.com is the best site to find contract info on every player on every team.
Yes, someone does know what they are talking about.
http://www.nhlscap.com/capnumbers/philadelphia.htm
Brieres cap hit is even throughout the contract. The team can structure the contract any way they want but the cap hit is divided evenly.
anyone see chiarelli on OTR? possible trade brewing with san jose...
What possible trade mook?
I just watched the entire segment with Chiarelli on OTR and the only thing I got out of it was he said he was the toughest GM to deal with. Not sure that equates to past or present.
maybe i'm talking out my ass, but he certainly made it seem like discussions were happening right now. i dunno, maybe i have hopes of marleau or something...
lansberg is such a tool.
Not to get too technical but the team is still limited as to how they can structure a contract. No single year in a contract can be less the half the amount of another year. Eg. 10mil one year and 5mil the next is fine, but 10mil one year and 4.75mil the next is against the rules
Mook, yes, Lansberg is a total tool. I actually think the crew they have on Versus during the night games is pretty good, especially compared to Lansberg.
As far as trades go, isn't there a freeze during the playoffs? I don't know for sure but would guess as much.
Beuler?
There might be a freeze on trading, but talks are always going on. I don't mind Landsberg, he gets the guests to relax, at least. PC's statement tells me he tried to unload Murray to SJ at the deadline and couldn't get anywhere.
Murray probably begged to get back with Joe "chokes in the playoffs" Thornton. He really doesn't fit on the Bruins on the ice. Now that we've got Ward in the locker room, I don't feel so bad about dumping Murray. I'm sure the leafs would take him...maybe even Jersey or someone like this. I could see him doing some damage in Philly but again...he wouldn't fit!
If I had to bet, I would say he scores 30 goals next year...have a good feeling. It is a contract year after all!!! Would be stupid to buy him out.
I think Gaborik would be a nice addition depending on the price... If Kessel needs to be included I wouldn't do it and if Rask needs to be included I wouldn't do it and last but for sure not least if Lucic needs to be included I don't do it...
This is what I would offer:
Minnesota:
Glen Murray RW
Marc Savard C
David Kreijc C
+ Prospect
Boston:
Marian Gaborik RW
Pierre-Marc Bouchard C/RW (RFA, rights)
*make sure Gaborik and Bouchard sign extensions.
This deal seems somewhat fair might need to add some from the Boston side.
Our new lines:
Kessel Bergeron Gaborik
Sturm/Lucic Bouchard Kobasew
Lucic/Sturm Metropolit Schaefer
Axelsson Sobotka Nokelainen
Chara JM Liles
Wideman Ward
Alberts Some D
Rask
Thomas
Fernandez
(THomas or Fernandez will go)
La kinga are looking for a young defenceman... wideman and schaeffer for cammelerri
I wanna see this squad get another chance to see what they can do. Then cap room will be provided with Murray and Fernandez off the books for 09'.
Could anyone here provide the potential top 5 wingers/centers of summer 09' FA class because if it is strong def don't go Hossa.
beantown are you serious...trading arguably the best passer in the game last season and our top center prospect for a guy that shows up to play in half the games he plays in...and a middle of the road center...not a chance in hell...stick to the team we have and let them develop if anything demote muzz and fernandez to clear their salary and go for hossa or someone else
beantown youre insane, why havent the bruins won the cup in thirty years? they keep trading to win now, not build for the future, they will be a great team in the next few years, why risk that? i wouldnt trade savard straight up for gaborik, forget giving up our top center prospect and another prospect! that is the dumbest deal i have ever seen. and clearly you have no knowledge of hockey, because you want the bruins to dump timmy and let rask start, rask isnt ready to start, read the boston globe article on him, and look at his stats, he had less than a 90% save percentage in the ahl! the friggin ahl! timmy had 920 in the nhl! you shouldnt talk hockey unless you know what youre talking about. tuukka will be a great goalie, with repitition and practice in the ahl. you cant risk his confidence and future hes barely old enough to drink. the bruins have great chemistry and a great team next year, and fans like you are why they bruins havent won lately. you whine and complain that the bruins arent winning now, and then the bruins make a retarded trade because the jacobs want money and you wont watch unless they do what you say. so shut your mouth and let the bruins win next year
i agree with bergie btw, demotion will make theyre salaries not count towards the cap, and if we cut them half there salary counts towards it. so demote muzz and fernandez, but i dont think hossa is worth eight mil, 30 goals is not worth 8 mil. maybe theres a middle of the road goal scorer on the market, any one know if theres one?
i know bernier on buffalo is a RFA this summer...maybe make a run at him to throw along side bergie or something who knows...anything is better than hossa at 8 mil...if we could get savvy and chara to talk him down to 6.5 id think about it but anything over that is ludicrous
First off I doubt the fans alter Bruins Management decisions? If you want a 30 goal scorer look no further than PATRICE BERGERON!
Next I am no expert on goaltender development but if we are a building franchise at the moment why is it so much more important that Rask play in the AHL than NHL. Repetition is irrelevant without quality. Don't forget he would be practicing with NHL Players, traveling with NHL players, learning from NHL Coaches, etc...
Besides Goals Against Avg is much more important than Save Percentage. A guy "sends it down the river" (Jack Edwards) and its on net, thats a save.
Sign Wideman
i can understand your point of view on goaltenders, but are you willing to risk all of rasks future next year? the globe just had an article about how he and chirelli both agreed he needs more work in providence, but i think that those decisions are opinionated, and ill leave that choice up to bruins management. i agree with your opinion on save percentage, but 20% isnt all from pucks that float in, in fact rask might have seen more of them, so that card really doesnt work.
here are two articles on rask
http://www.bostonherald.com/sports/hockey/bruins/view.bg?articleid=1093025&srvc=rss
http://www.boston.com/sports/hockey/articles/2008/05/25/a_tough_minor_adjustment/
the fans decide much of what the bruins do, if people arent buying tickets, and people want a trade, the natural association would be "make a trade=fans will come" a trade is much more likely to happen.
i dont think the bruins really need anymore offensive players, i have faith in the youth improving, and if bergy is healthy that is another 30 goals, ty anon. i mean nokelienin stepped up big towards the end of the year, so did lucic, and sobotka. those are all potential 40-60 point men.
i dont know much about bernier, but ill ask some of my friends about him.
Bernier is big with good hands. The type of player PC loves. I would love to see him in black and gold.
yeah i would as well...only problem would be seeing what we would have to give up on an offer sheet to him...would be interesting but i highly doubt buffalo would let the center piece of the campbell trade walk after 2 months in a sabre uni but itd be a nice idea...he could take muzz's spot as the big man up front while lucic develops
I think the bruins would be wise to at least test the waters with Hossa. The bruins could really benefit from a prominent goal scorer playing with Savard. Also, if I recall correctly, wasn't Hossa's best offensive year one where he was centered by savard?
old names and old stories.
bruins need to look forward. will siging hossa win the the cup? no. hopefully they get lucky and some of the youth on this team develops into where pittsburgh is now. if we were to add hossa in, say, 2 seasons...then it's a different story provided all the pieces fall into place. instead of trading savard for gaborik (which is comepletely retarded, btw) just give him a set of shoulder pads that fit properly. the fact that savard finished with such a high point total on a team which supposedly plays TRAP hockey speaks volumes. give the bruins time and don't rush-out grabbing any rfa or ufa available. think detroit won the cup this year because of trades?!?!
(Detroit in 5)
f-off with the hossa talk.
Lucic-Savard-Hossa
Sturm-Bergeron-Kessel
Pelletier-Krejci-Kobasew
Axelsson-Metropolit-Thornton
Alberts-Chara
Wideman-Ward
Stuart-Lashoff
Yes, signing Hossa makes all the sense in the world, because he is one of the best players in the league, and in 2 years all the talent we have will develop with him here, instead of him NOT here. The reason they didn't do the trade is he was going to free agency no matter what... so why give away Kessel and then loose Hossa or have to give him big money when you can just wait a month, keep Kessel, and then give Hossa his money?
Murray will be assigned to Providence. That way the team takes $0 in cap-hit, and if there are some critical injuries... (say Hossa or Savard or someone goes in injury reserve) you bring him up and he can play. In the mean time, Murray can either go to Providence and play at his regular $4.15mil, or retire. No skin off our teeth either way.
I know Hossa with Savard sounds great but 1 player doesn't make a team. And this team identity has proven to be hard nose 2 way players. All I hope is Chiarelli completes all the small but important transactions before Free Agency, then re-evaluates his financial situation. If signing Wideman, Stuart, Nokie, etc... happens and thier is still room for a 4 year Hossa deal then yes go for it. But right now that prob won't happen. Murray I think we all agree upon is DONE!
I know people will laugh at this point but a young talented winger from Russia is rejoining the team possibly next season. Chistov? Maybe some additional offense.
All I know is no matter what happens this team will be better than last season.
chistov is gone we released him
lol, o well
cheeeeeeeeeeeeeeeesie!!
bruins have no space for nokie. too bad...
what about getting jay Boumeester could be good fit!!!
really random but i just wore my lucic t-shirt to the bar (Northern VT) to watch the C's game 6 and got talkin with a canadiens fan. It got me realizing how pumped i am for another season of Lucic/Bruins Season.
That is all
Boumeester would be great, I wouldnt dump Kessel yet, Rask is not on my do not touch list, I would love to have Boyes back
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