GM for one day
A little slow, for now, in the news aside silly rumours like Bergeron for draft picks and prospects. As you all know, the B's have plenty of centermans ( NHL'er and prospects ) and one might be dealt during the season. You are the GM: Which center would you trade if you can acquire a player who can fill one of your needs? Savard, Bergy or another center? and why? In the Murray case, what's your stance?
I already said, elsewhere, that Bergy is an untouchable in my book. He's young, have a lot of upside and already proved that he's a legitimate #2 centerman who could turn into a #1. Sooner then later, he will be the face of this franchise. Trading him will send the wrong message to the fans unless the team can deal him for another very good young player like Jay Boomester. Anyhow, Bergy is a keeper in my book and if i have to deal a center, that would be Savard. Murray is a good guy and he can score goal but i doubt his value will be higher then it is, right now, mostly because of the Gomez/Drury contracts signed this summer. I like Murray a lot but i don't think his presence will be the difference between a playoffs spot or not. Also, there's an health issue....
I already said, elsewhere, that Bergy is an untouchable in my book. He's young, have a lot of upside and already proved that he's a legitimate #2 centerman who could turn into a #1. Sooner then later, he will be the face of this franchise. Trading him will send the wrong message to the fans unless the team can deal him for another very good young player like Jay Boomester. Anyhow, Bergy is a keeper in my book and if i have to deal a center, that would be Savard. Murray is a good guy and he can score goal but i doubt his value will be higher then it is, right now, mostly because of the Gomez/Drury contracts signed this summer. I like Murray a lot but i don't think his presence will be the difference between a playoffs spot or not. Also, there's an health issue....
posted by Latrappe at 6:50 AM
16 Comments:
Bergy is the future of the franchise and Savard is one of the biggest bargains in hockey, they are the only untouchables. I would bundle Murray and get a top four D as they win championships as shown by the Devils and Ducks.
Bergy and Savard are the only untouchables, and I'd trade Muzz in a heartbeat. Latrappe learn some grammar you boob.
French is my mother tongue, you boob. Write 3 lines in french and i will help you with the grammar...
Ah, Latrappe speaks French. Well then, good post.
To me, Savard is a bargain as well as an amazing player, but he is not untouchable. I certainly wouldn't trade him before, or in the beginning of the season, but if we are approaching the deadline and aren't in the hunt for the playoffs I can see a deal. I think there are a lot of teams that would want a guy like Savard for a young, not-yet-playoff-ready, but still very talented D-man.
I personally consider Kessel untouchable as well as Bergeron. There is a lot of young talent around, and I think that as long as we hold on to it, we can really climb out of this hole within a few seasons.
I am of the opinion that we keep Murray until he retires (as long as he doesn't want to fester for another 8 years). If someone seeks him out because they need a sniper come playoff time I am open to offers, but I wouldn't go shopping him because he will still produce and he's a guy that you need to believe in as an emotional leader.
I also fell that we need to take care of our young defensemen. I'm not going to say that they are all untouchable, but we need to be careful in determining the good ones.
I also fell that we need to take care of our young defensemen. I'm not going to say that they are all untouchable, but we need to be careful in determining the good ones.
Definitely agree with you on that one. Stuart seems to be ready and so Lashoff. One thing for sure, Lashoff deserve a chance to show what he can do and if Julien put him in a position top succeed, he will. He didn't look foolish, at all, last year when he was paired with a veteran D. I'd like to see him paired with Chara or Ference. Wideman is poor in the defensive zone and i think the B's doesn't need that kind of lapses in their own end. Only a year deal for Wideman. He could be on the block during the season.
I believe Bruin fans need to recognize Bergy is not or may not become an elite player. I believe we continue to overrate him as a player.
Bergeron lead the team with a -28 last year. Not so good. He's play certainly = a -28 player.
To date, I have not witnessed anything spectacular from Bergy, at least anything that convinces me he will be an elite player.
This is a great time to trade Bergy, if the right deal comes along, Chia should most definately trade him, however, Chia must trade for equal youth. i.e. Hemsky type plus prospect.
There is no way you can justify trading Bergeron at this point. He is still incredibly young and has a ton of talent.
I just feel that last season needs to be stricken from the records, for not only Bergeron, but for everyone. Lewis had no idea what he was doing. Remember folks, Dave Lewis was handed the keys to a dominant Red Wings team and couldn't get them past the first round. I tip the cap to Chiarelli for admitting he made a mistake and for correcting the problem. Julien has much more experience and a proven track record.
Bergy is a pure scorer and represents the future, along with Kessell, of the B's. There is no reason to trade one young pure scorer for another right now.
Bergeron was injuried and had 70 points. I'm not sure what fans expected from a guy who was injuries like 33% of the season. Bergeron is a very good all around player and that's exactly what you need from a player who play at the center position. Trading Bergeron because you're deep, prospects wise, at the center position is plain dumb. These guys are prospects and there'S no guarantee that they will pan out.
Being deep at the center positon is NEVER a problem. You can always transition a Center to a wing if need be. The transition from winger to centerman is very difficult, but the other way around involves more coaching and discipline since it is a more restrictive position. This can absolutely be done with a center or two. Sure, a true center will produce better there, but most guys are centers simply because they have always been the best kid on the team. Most guys can learn to be a disciplined winger.
In Wideman's case, I'd try to feature him on the PP as much as possible, try to let him rack up some serious points and look for a trade in-season. This is assuming that he plays as poorly in the defensive zone as he did last year.
If we pair him with a very good stay at home guy like maybe Stuart or Ference they may be able to find that gelling point and come together well. If that scenario works, I see no reason to trade him. I think that a one year deal was definately a great move. Work with him and watch him. He is young and talented, but if he never comes around, try to get something for him.
if i was gm for a day,i'd tell the boss to kiss my stanky ass and quit!lol
if i was gm for a day,i'd tell the boss to kiss my stanky ass and quit!lol
That why you're not a GM and probably why JJ doesn't hire competent peoples who can tell him to go to hell...
I believe people who start these rumors like the one about Bergeron going to Vancouver are probably Vancouver Canucks fans, first they will put the Idea of him being traded, then will sign on with a different names saying stuff like Bergeron is over rated yada! yada! yada! trying to sell the idea to us bruins fans hoping will be stupid enough to fall for it and push for him to be traded.
Bergeron to Vancouver does make sense when you look at the depth charts of both teams. Boston is deep at centre with both established players and prospects. The Canucks are loaded with solid NHL defecsemen as well as defensive prospects. If we got enough back, I would trade him. His numbers last season will have dropped his trade value, so keeping him is the best option. Vancouver is desparate for a 2nd line centre, though, so they just might offer enough for him.
makes sense, OK anonymous, he is our number 2 Center, by the way how is the weather in Vancouver?? that is where you are from.
read the comment again tim b. the guy said the rumors make sense, but a trade still won't happen becouse other teams won't find enough value in Bergy. besides some of us follow the entire NHL and know of good players everywhere not just Boston. Enjoy the rest of the baseball season
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